Fic-issues
Oct. 12th, 2005 01:15 pmeta: Unlocked for discussion.
Seriously, what is it with the load of non-con fic lately?
Why do authors write about rape in order to have hurt/comfort? What is so appealing about it? I bet that if any of them ever had actually experienced rape, they wouldn't even consider writing it for fun.
This is ... it's a violation. Why would you want to do that to a character you care about?
Worst of all are the fics in which a character is raped and then the other character tries to make it better with sex of all things, and then, at the end of the fic, everything is dandy and happy again and the character experiencing the non-con doesn't suffer ANY aftereffects.
Well, sorry, but life doesn't work that way. Trauma. That ring a bell?
It makes me especially mad to see people salivating over it in reviews (To quote: I love "(character A) being raped" stories -- The things we writers put you through in the name of h/c fic. *grins over his shoulder* LOVED this. Oh wow. So much pain! More! More! Gods, I can't wait to see whatcha do with this. *nod nod* ), or even demanding hard non-con (I'm not talking dodgy-con here, even though I have issues there as well) in challenges. What the fuck is WRONG with those people?
This isn't a joking matter. Rape is nothing to drool about or anticipate.
I feel disgusted with this part of fandom. Same thing goes with the torture-device far too many stories use - and this has happened in all fandoms I've been in now. Character A being tortured mercilessly, only to have Character B comforting Character A and consequently making him/her forget all about the torture / rape and everything is happy and dandy again at the end and they profess undying love to eachother and have the best sex ever. No consequences. Because the characters had sex, everything is all right again.
I'm joking, you think? Well, seen in a prompt lately: "Non-con, rape or torture are okay as long as there is some hope and some kind of happy ending lurking somewhere
Do those writers/prompters really think everything will be pretty and happy again after your character has gone through something like that? To me, it just constitutes a limited horizon, a scary amount of loss of reality and an even more frightening amount of small-mindedness.
(Adding here that I don't object to the subject being dealt with in an adult, respectful way. But examples as the ones above are doing anything but.)
I may be the narrow-minded one here, however, so if anyone could explain to me where the appeal of non-con stories lies, I'd be glad to broaden my horizon. I realise that this is a touchy subject and this is only my opinion, by no means am I laying claim to being right. I doubt I'll ever understand, but I'd like to hear explanations.
Seriously, what is it with the load of non-con fic lately?
Why do authors write about rape in order to have hurt/comfort? What is so appealing about it? I bet that if any of them ever had actually experienced rape, they wouldn't even consider writing it for fun.
This is ... it's a violation. Why would you want to do that to a character you care about?
Worst of all are the fics in which a character is raped and then the other character tries to make it better with sex of all things, and then, at the end of the fic, everything is dandy and happy again and the character experiencing the non-con doesn't suffer ANY aftereffects.
Well, sorry, but life doesn't work that way. Trauma. That ring a bell?
It makes me especially mad to see people salivating over it in reviews (To quote: I love "(character A) being raped" stories -- The things we writers put you through in the name of h/c fic. *grins over his shoulder* LOVED this. Oh wow. So much pain! More! More! Gods, I can't wait to see whatcha do with this. *nod nod* ), or even demanding hard non-con (I'm not talking dodgy-con here, even though I have issues there as well) in challenges. What the fuck is WRONG with those people?
This isn't a joking matter. Rape is nothing to drool about or anticipate.
I feel disgusted with this part of fandom. Same thing goes with the torture-device far too many stories use - and this has happened in all fandoms I've been in now. Character A being tortured mercilessly, only to have Character B comforting Character A and consequently making him/her forget all about the torture / rape and everything is happy and dandy again at the end and they profess undying love to eachother and have the best sex ever. No consequences. Because the characters had sex, everything is all right again.
I'm joking, you think? Well, seen in a prompt lately: "Non-con, rape or torture are okay as long as there is some hope and some kind of happy ending lurking somewhere
Do those writers/prompters really think everything will be pretty and happy again after your character has gone through something like that? To me, it just constitutes a limited horizon, a scary amount of loss of reality and an even more frightening amount of small-mindedness.
(Adding here that I don't object to the subject being dealt with in an adult, respectful way. But examples as the ones above are doing anything but.)
I may be the narrow-minded one here, however, so if anyone could explain to me where the appeal of non-con stories lies, I'd be glad to broaden my horizon. I realise that this is a touchy subject and this is only my opinion, by no means am I laying claim to being right. I doubt I'll ever understand, but I'd like to hear explanations.
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Date: 2005-10-12 05:43 pm (UTC)Just in case this came across wrong: I do steer clear of those stories. I've only been reading the summary on the most recent page of Wraithbait and then clicked on the reviews (yes, because I was wondering if anyone else objected to this kind of plot-device) and was instantly repelled by the reviews.
Just in case this whole arguing above came across as: Well, why does she read it when it angers her so.
At least one writer I know writes rape-fic because it's of therapeutic value to her.
And this, as contradictory as it seems, is what I can understand and relate to.
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Date: 2005-10-12 06:06 pm (UTC)No, didn't come across wrong at all; I didn't even have you in mind when I wrote the line you quote -- I was talking about actual readers and writers of rape-fic, which you clearly aren't.
I know you better than that, sweetie, and it really didn't cross my mind until you brought it up here.
Not contradictory at all! You belong to the school of writers who demand value and/or substance in fiction, and if the one who creates a rape-fic derives a measure of...a cure, some relief, a coping mechanism from it, that'll be fine.